We start this episode with a comment from a listener who gets us talking about old skeletons, megaliths and our true history. Bashar answers the real question we all have, do aliens have pets? Dean shows Drew an awesome YouTube channel call TierZoo that teaches about zoology through the surprisingly apt analogy of gaming. In the second segment, Dean shares an video with Dr. Michael Levin talking to Kurt from Theories of Everything about philosophy. They discuss the thought that idealism could be true and the nature of the self. For the rest of the show, the topic shifts to covering a super interesting Jesse Michels episode in which he joined Karl Nell and Diana Pasulka on the stage of Hereticon to discuss UFOs. Karl Nell walks us through 3 reasons for people to believe that UFOs and non-human intelligence are real. His reasons include first principles thinking on the topic, testimonial evidence and the data. Diana talks about her interesting interpretation of Plato’s Republic and his reason for including the allegory of the cave at the end of it. She also discusses early Christianity and how it came out of paganism. She talks about what it would mean for religious believers to come to terms with the idea that their religion is actually real in a practical sense here and now. Is what modern humanity refers to as extra-terrestrials the same thing that Christians refer to as angels?



Links:







Instagram: Bashar: Do aliens have pets?









YouTube: TierZoo – How Wolves Broke The Game







Spotify: Stevie Nader’s Album “333”









YouTube: Curt Jaimungal from the TOE podcast inteviewing Michael Levin and discussing Platonic idealism and what is the self







Spotify: TJ McNulty’s album “Harmony”







Isaac Koi’s website with all sorts of UFO information, images and video









YouTube: Jesse Michels’ video with Colonel Karl Nell and Diana Walsh Pasulka discussing UFOs at Hereticon







Spotify: Soul Food’s album “First Course”



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Timestamps:



0:00:00 – Intro0:02:13 – Listener Comments0:14:34 – Bashar: Do Aliens Have Pets?0:17:41 – TierZoo0:28:10 – Music Break: Stevie Nader Take You On (Acoustic)0:32:03 – Michael Levin What is the Self1:02:34 – Music Break: TJ McNulty – Nickels & Dimes1:06:01 – Isaac Koi’s Website1:07:20 – Reasons to Think NHI are Real – First Principles1:17:55 – Reason 2&3 testimonials & Data1:24:14 – Diana Pasulka on a Different Interpretation of Plato1:39:51 – Music Break: Soul Food – If I1:43:41 – Christianity, Paganism Religion is Real2:00:55 – Tim Taylor & T Townsend Brown2:06:48 – Outro



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