Can the United States and Russia collaborate even as the Ukraine War continues? What is possible if the war stops and if it doesn’t? Fyodor Lukyanov, the prominent Russian expert in foreign affairs, research director at the Valdai Discussion Club, and editor in chief of the publication "Russia in Global Affairs" joins co-hosts Christian Whiton and Mark Simon to discuss Russia and the United States, Russia and China, Europe’s declining relevance to both powers, and how to improve relations. 00:00 Lead-in: Putting America first regarding Russia and Ukraine 07:06 What’s on Putin’s mind11:30 Can US and Russia talk about the future?16:45 Areas of possible US-Russia cooperation22:40 Russia turning away from Europe?29:40 Can US and Russia beef up non-official discussions?36:30 Initiating better diplomacy 41:40 Russia and China48:00 Chinese in eastern Russia

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