This episode features a conversation between Dave and his guest, Shaun Marshall. Shaun is a husband, father, pastor, consultant and author of the book, "Transition Decisions: How to get unstuck, embrace change and make your next move NOW." 
Shaun and Dave talk about everything from insecurities to judgment, shame, whiteness, the complexity of getting your own needs met while you're in a position of leadership and much more. 
You can purchase Shaun's book here:
https://www.amazon.com/Transition-Decisions-Unstuck-Embrace-Change/dp/1957368047/ref=sr_1_1?crid=9GG8SNEJC827&keywords=transition+decisions+shaun+marshall&qid=1646690381&sprefix=transition+decision+sha%2Caps%2C72&sr=8-1

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