In this episode of Conversations with Josh Andrew, I talk about one of the greatest tensions in modern ministry — the pull between calling and clout. Too many pastors are chasing platforms when God called us to carry a cross.
I’ve spent years in the creative and marketing world, and I’ve seen how easy it is to mistake followers for fruit and engagement for anointing. In this conversation, I unpack eight honest thoughts for pastors who want to stay grounded in their true calling — faithfulness over fame, presence over performance, and purpose over platform.
🎧 Listen if you want to:


Lead with integrity in a culture of influence


Stay faithful when the pressure to perform is real


Keep your heart aligned with your calling


Build the Kingdom, not just your brand


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