Send us a textDavid Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof are joined this week by Darryn Scheske, founding senior pastor of Heartland Church, and Derwin Gray, lead pastor of Transformation Church in South Carolina. As leaders of multicultural congregations, Derwin and Darryn share their insights on how to lead in a time when the world and the church are awakening to the need for racial justice. As Carey puts it, “Thirty years from now, the more important conversation is not, ‘How did you make it through COVID, but what did you do about racial reconciliation?’ I think that's how history will remember this moment.”

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