Ben sits down with Seth Condrey for this month's life-giving conversation. Seth is a songwriter and worship leader whose music has been viewed millions of times. Seth currently serves as the Worship Pastor at Epic Church in San Francisco. In this episode, he shares how important deliberate practice is with any gift we've been given. Seth talks about the discipline of collecting ideas. He speaks to the importance of having an adequate inner life, the vulnerability it takes to bring something into the public sphere, and how much place and presence matter.

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