In Episode 5 of the Bring It Out podcast, Ben has a riveting conversation with Minnie Lee. Growing up in a traditional Korean family had huge implications for Minnie's overwhelming need to achieve. And she did achieve - at companies like Fox and Disney, as well as helping Uber get off the ground before most of us ever heard of it. She shares about her own experience with burnout and what you should consider if you're thinking about transitioning into a new vocation. Perhaps the biggest lesson from Minnie comes when she shares all that she's learned through her own experience with chronic pain and whether or not pain can take away our purpose. 

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