In this episode of the Branching Out Podcast, Justin Rademacher breaks down the real business math behind tree service marketing and why obsessing over cheap leads is holding many business owners back.Many tree service owners ask one question first: “How many leads am I going to get?”But that’s the wrong question.In this episode, Justin explains the difference between Cost Per Lead (CPL), Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC), and Lifetime Value (LTV) and shows how these numbers work together to determine whether your marketing is actually profitable.Using simple, realistic examples, Justin walks through:• How to calculate CPL the right way• Why CAC matters more than cost per lead• How close rate impacts your true customer acquisition cost• Why LTV must be measured using profit, not revenue• What a healthy LTV to CAC ratio looks like for tree service companies• Why a 3:1 ratio is survivable but tight• Why 4:1 to 5:1 gives you room to scale• How improving close rate, pricing, and follow-up fixes bad marketing mathJustin also covers a realistic slow-season example, showing how higher CPLs don’t automatically mean marketing is broken and how smart operators adjust instead of panicking.If you run a tree service business and want to:• Spend money on marketing with confidence• Understand what a customer is actually worth• Stop guessing whether your ads are working• Scale without killing cash flowThis episode will give you the framework you need.

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