(0:00) Intro.(1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:57) Start of interview. (2:30) Carol's origin story.(4:34) Evolution of corporate governance in Canada since the late 1980s. (5:51) The origin and focus of her firm Hansell McLaughlin Advisory Group, based in Canada.(10:13) On her personal board career and the benefits of lawyers serving on boards.(14:20) Best practices for board evaluations and distinctions between board education in Canada and the U.S.(18:57) The rise and influence of large institutional investors in corporate governance.(22:00) Shareholder activism in Canada.(24:25) On the state of ESG in Canada. (30:03) On addressing board diversity.(37:01) Impact of geopolitics and national security in the boardroom.(39:45) Impact of AI in the boardroom. "It's top of mind for everybody."(41:29) Impact of cybersecurity and talent management in the boardroom. Oil and gas directors in boards of banks?(44:01) Books that have greatly influenced her life: biographies (people that have stood up to authority).(44:48) Her mentors. (45:50) Quotes that she thinks of often or lives her life by: "A man's reach must exceed his grasp, or what's the heaven for?"(46:29) An unusual habit or absurd thing that she loves.(47:00) The living person she most admires.(48:20) The challenge in advising corporate governance: "everyone thinks they're an expert now." Plus, recognition of conflicts of interest.Carol Hansell is a Senior Partner at Hansell LLP and a member of the Hansell McLaughlin Advisory Group in Canada. 
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