In this special family episode, Cailey sits down with her dad Frank Heaps (craft-beer pioneer behind Upper Canada Brewing) and brother Cameron Heaps (Steam Whistle co-founder and CEO of Voltari electric performance boats). They talk candidly about risk vs. opportunity, growing up Heaps, the values that shaped them (kindness, grit, nature, and doing the job yourself), and how to build exceptional products and teams without losing sight of simple joys.Highlights include: the origin story of Steam Whistle (“do one thing really well”), why Voltari is rethinking boating with high-performance electric powertrains, Frank’s lessons from St. Lucia and the craft-beer movement, parenting without a “linear path,” negotiation and leadership philosophy, and rapid-fire fun (favorite beers, guilty pleasures, best advice).Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent, or just here for a great story, this conversation blends heart, hard-won wisdom, and humour.Guests: Frank Heaps, Cameron HeapsHost: Cailey Heaps

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