There’s only one way to avoid bad luck on Friday the 13th and that’s by listening to episode 97 of the Promo UPFront Podcast with Kirby Hasseman and Bill Petrie. This week the promo pair talk about the blog Bill wrote calling on the industry to be intentional about diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), discuss when (if) companies grow too large to adequately service their clients, muse on being intentional about surrounding yourself with people to make you better, chew on how Zoom (and any company) can succeed after the pandemic, and much more!

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