In this episode, Jeremiah and David welcome Jane Perlez, former Beijing bureau chief for the New York Times (2012-2019), to discuss the evolving challenges of reporting from China. Drawing from her firsthand experience, Jane details the gradual erosion of press freedom under Xi Jinping's leadership, including the 2018 expulsion of journalists and the ongoing obstacles faced by news assistants working for foreign media. The conversation explores both the creative strategies reporters now use to conduct investigative journalism from outside China's borders and Jane's latest podcast project, 'Face Off: The US vs. China,' which examines the deterioration of U.S.-China relations in the 21st century.

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