In this episode, the timely topic of real estate. What kind of a home do you want for your data, your stack, your instances? Where should you house your architecture? In a nice bare metal colo rack bungalow? Or maybe something a little more “penthouse fabulous” — something up in the… public cloud? Rahul makes the case to stop hugging servers altogether and go all-in on AWS, and pushback ensues when Chase Cunningham talks security and compliance.   Guest: Chase Cunningham is the Chief Strategy Officer at Ericom Software, a web isolation and remote application access software company. He is a former Chief Cryptologic Technician with the NSA where he ran cyber security and worked closely with the FBI, CIA and Department of Homeland Security.Known in the industry as Dr. Zero Trust, Chase also hosts an eponymous podcast and has authored three books: gAbriel, Cyber Warfare -- Truth, Tactics and Strategies and Rip Tide: A Narrative on Cyber Security Failures at the National Level isolation.

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