The 2022 word of the year is out and it's 'permacrisis', which in simple terms, is a portmanteau of 'permanent' and 'crisis'.

And so, in this week's episode, Rhonda Brighton-Hall and Brenton 'Willo' Williamson, Business Director at mwah., discuss 'what catastrophic thinking should look like.' They talk about how to remain calm, and learn to organise chaos when dealing with it rather than sinking into it.

Rhonda and Willo also chat about what leadership traits make a difference (and even get mildly political), and give a shoutout to the incredible organisation - TradeMutt - who are making waves for starting conversations around mental wellbeing for consturction workers through their iconic workwear collection.

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