Michael and Julian discuss:North Dakota. Even the state's own tourism bureau thinks you should leave it to last. Julian disagrees; he visits a great museum and an empty national park.In the week where the federal government says that fully vaccinated people don't have to wear masks in most settings, Julian and Michael discuss Covid in the USA.Trains vs. car in the USA. Julian explains how transportation developed in the USA and why the car is so dominant. Michael talks of a wonderful train journey he took from LA to San Diego.Other Show NotesLearn more about how America's culture developed in Julian Bishop's High, Wide, and Handsome. Available here to buy as a paperback, ebook, or audiobookExcerpts, reviews, and more available here Connect with Julian via:FacebookInstagramTwitterLinkedInConnect with Michael viaTwitterLinkedIn

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