In this special summer episode, we do something a bit different. Our usal host Ather Gattami steps into the guest seat and is interviewed by close friend; Joseph Michael, Venture Partnerships at Google. Ather shares his journey from PhD researcher to leading Sweden's top AI podcast. He reflects on AI's evolution, the shift from theory to compute-driven progress, and why reasoning and real-world learning are the next big steps. Ather urges everyone to embrace AI tools or risk falling behind and shares his excitement about trends like agentic AI - while reaffirming that his true passion lies in doing AI, not just talking about it.  Happy Summer!  

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