Grace talks to Emma Dowling about the crisis of care facing the world economy, and why this crisis poses a threat to capitalist social relations. They discuss the commodification and financialisation of the care sector, the challenges of organising, and what it would look like to genuinely democratise care work. Emma Dowling teaches at the University of Vienna and is the author of The Care Crisis: What Caused It and How Can We End It? The book is coming out in paperback in February 2022.You can support our work on the show by becoming a patron at patreon.com/aworldtowinpod. Thanks to our producer Conor Gillies and to the Lipman-Miliband Trust for making this episode possible.

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