Grace speaks to Neil Vallelly, author of Futilitarianism: Neoliberalism and the Production of Uselessness. They discuss the role of utilitarian thinking in the development of capitalism, how utilitarianism has collapsed into "futilitarianism," and the impact this pervasive sense of futility is having on our sense of individual and collective wellbeing.You can support our work on the show by subscribing to our Patreon, where you'll get access to full-length versions of the interviews. Thanks to producer Conor Gillies and to the Lipman-Miliband Trust for making this episode possible.

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