Listen "2 Gurus Talk Compliance - Episode 1"
Episode Synopsis
What happens when two top compliance commentators get together? They talk compliance of course. Join Kristy Grant-Hart and Tom Fox for their new podcast, 2 Gurus Talk Compliance! But it is not simply Kristy and Tom talking compliance. In this podcast series Kristy and Tom review other top commentators in compliance as well. In this podcast, we will consider all things compliance, corporate ethics, ESG, governance, and whatever else is on our minds and the minds of other experts in the field. Kristy and Tom explore all of these topics with expertise and wit.
In this inaugural episode, they discuss the latest in compliance trends and news, including two Supreme Court cases that have implications for the compliance profession. They also cover the Department of Justice and whistleblower trends, taking a look at Miranda and Upjohn warnings and increasing numbers of whistleblower reports to the SEC. They also dive into an article from the Harvard Law School Forum on corporate governance and discuss the Illinois Biometric law. Join the conversation and discover the latest on compliance and regulations with 2 Gurus Talk Compliance.
Highlights Include
The Role of In-House Attorneys in Communication Between Outside Counsel and Businesses [00:05:17]
Supreme Court Decision on the Future of the CFPB [00:09:11]
Impact of the Colorado Draft Regulation on Artificial Intelligence Compliance Programs [00:13:23]
The Benefits of Automated Data Deletion [00:17:23]
A Miranda component to corporate Upjohn Warnings [00:21:25]
The Obligation of Society to Address Climate Change [00:25:33]
The Benefits of Self-Disclosure in the DOJ Justice System [00:29:18]
The Role of the Board in Overseeing Third Parties in High-Risk Countries [00:33:14]
The Impact of Whistleblowers on the SEC [00:40:54]
White Castle’s Violation of Illinois Biometric Law [00:45:05]
Notable Quotes
1. The DOJ is urging a federal judge to sanction Google's parent, Alphabet, for its practice of setting employee chats to auto delete despite promising to preserve records."
2. "It goes to beyond the specifics of this law, something and you and I have talked about for several years now, that the compliance function and the CCO is well perhaps the most well-suited corporate discipline to deal with these new initiatives because it's the basic framework of compliance that you and I have worked with for 15 years."
3. "Most compliance programs just don't have good frameworks for things like AI or for big data even though we've been using that word for a long time."
Resources
Boards and 3rd Party Risk Oversight
CO Draft AI Rules for Insurance
Miranda Warnings in Corp Investigation
Current whistleblowing landscape
Has the stature of the CCO changed?
Analysis on the DOJ’s update to the self-disclosure program
Supreme Court considering the defunding the CFTC
Trends in state privacy law
Litigation holds and records retention/Google/DOJ
Individuals charged – first enforcement action 2023
Connect with Kristy Grant-Hart on LinkedIn
Spark Consulting
Connect with Tom Fox on Linkedin
In this inaugural episode, they discuss the latest in compliance trends and news, including two Supreme Court cases that have implications for the compliance profession. They also cover the Department of Justice and whistleblower trends, taking a look at Miranda and Upjohn warnings and increasing numbers of whistleblower reports to the SEC. They also dive into an article from the Harvard Law School Forum on corporate governance and discuss the Illinois Biometric law. Join the conversation and discover the latest on compliance and regulations with 2 Gurus Talk Compliance.
Highlights Include
The Role of In-House Attorneys in Communication Between Outside Counsel and Businesses [00:05:17]
Supreme Court Decision on the Future of the CFPB [00:09:11]
Impact of the Colorado Draft Regulation on Artificial Intelligence Compliance Programs [00:13:23]
The Benefits of Automated Data Deletion [00:17:23]
A Miranda component to corporate Upjohn Warnings [00:21:25]
The Obligation of Society to Address Climate Change [00:25:33]
The Benefits of Self-Disclosure in the DOJ Justice System [00:29:18]
The Role of the Board in Overseeing Third Parties in High-Risk Countries [00:33:14]
The Impact of Whistleblowers on the SEC [00:40:54]
White Castle’s Violation of Illinois Biometric Law [00:45:05]
Notable Quotes
1. The DOJ is urging a federal judge to sanction Google's parent, Alphabet, for its practice of setting employee chats to auto delete despite promising to preserve records."
2. "It goes to beyond the specifics of this law, something and you and I have talked about for several years now, that the compliance function and the CCO is well perhaps the most well-suited corporate discipline to deal with these new initiatives because it's the basic framework of compliance that you and I have worked with for 15 years."
3. "Most compliance programs just don't have good frameworks for things like AI or for big data even though we've been using that word for a long time."
Resources
Boards and 3rd Party Risk Oversight
CO Draft AI Rules for Insurance
Miranda Warnings in Corp Investigation
Current whistleblowing landscape
Has the stature of the CCO changed?
Analysis on the DOJ’s update to the self-disclosure program
Supreme Court considering the defunding the CFTC
Trends in state privacy law
Litigation holds and records retention/Google/DOJ
Individuals charged – first enforcement action 2023
Connect with Kristy Grant-Hart on LinkedIn
Spark Consulting
Connect with Tom Fox on Linkedin
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