In this episode, Rick and Judi talk about astonishment, in relation to God's goodness and love. They discuss how experiencing astonishment can lead to personal growth and a deeper relationship with God, moving beyond mere doctrinal knowledge to a more organic and authentic connection. The conversation touches on the importance of rituals, the role of ministry, and the transformative impact of the cross, ultimately encouraging listeners to embrace their own astonishment and authenticity in their spiritual journeys.takeawaysAstonishment is a key aspect of spiritual growth.God's goodness is often beyond our expectations.Personal experiences of God can lead to deeper understanding.Rituals can sometimes lead to stagnation in spiritual life.Astonishment can change how we relate to God and others.Communion with God can be a continuous, organic experience.Ministry should promote personal vision and freedom.The cross represents a profound source of astonishment.Authenticity in spiritual life is essential for growth.Astonishment leads to a more fulfilling relationship with God.

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