What exactly is magic? Is it simply a series of tricks rehearsed to perfection, or is there a more fantastical element to it? How do mentalism, precision and "deception" play into the world of magic? In a time when information is more accessible than ever, how do magicians feel about amateurs entering their world and performing tricks that took others years to study and master? Jonah Babins, co-founder of the Toronto Magic Company and host of the Discourse in Magic Podcast, joins Preconceived. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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