In this special follow-up to our three-part burnout series, Shanté and Natalie get real about walking the talk. After helping clients navigate burnout, boundaries, and team capacity, our own team hit a wall.We didn’t just talk about burnout—we lived it.From packed client weeks and cross-country trainings to the emotional toll of complex people work, the exhaustion crept in. We started noticing the signs: work felt heavier, excitement waned, and even our most patient moments got shorter. So, we paused.In this reflective episode, we share how we knew it was time to reset and the powerful exercises that helped us regroup with intention: • Revisiting the “why” behind our business • Mapping the services we can do vs. what we love to do • Introducing the Return on Energy framework • Learning to match client energy, not over-function • Codifying how each team member feels about specific tasks (green light, neutral, red light)This isn’t just a behind-the-scenes check-in—it’s a lesson in sustainability for leaders, teams, and organizations that are doing too much without enough return.If you’ve ever burned the candle at both ends, said yes when you should’ve paused, or lost sight of your why, this one’s for you.Let this episode be your reminder: burnout isn’t failure. It’s feedback. And your energy is just as important as your ROI.Follow & Connect with us:Follow Natalie Norfus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienorfus/. Follow Shante Gordon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shantegordon/. We’ve led hundreds of audits, assessments, and people strategy engagements, and we’d love to help your organization. Book a consultation with The Norfus Firm: https://thenorfusfirm.com/. Follow What’s the DEIL on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatsthedeil/. Follow What’s the DEIL on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whatsthedeil. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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