Luke Drago - AGI, The Intelligence Curse, and Hip-Hop

12/05/2025 1h 47min

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Luke Drago is the co-author of The Intelligence Curse and previously researched AI governance and economics at BlueDot Impact, served on the leadership team at Encode, and studied history and politics at Oxford.0:00 - Intro0:54 - Overview of the intelligence curse2:10 - Why are the doomers wrong?4:37 - Why are the optimists wrong?7:00 - Do people really have power now?13:33 - Why would powerful people’s values change?18:31 - Why do we take care of dependents?21:43 - Why should we want democracy in an AI future?24:23 - Why fear rentier states?32:45 - What powerful people should do right now39:33 - Diffusion time and bottlenecks44:20 - Why should we care if China achieves AGI first?46:25 - The jagged frontier49:16 - Why AGI society could be static51:10 - Restricting AI rights56:34 - What should we be excited for?59:28 - Music1:30:41 - Building God1:32:46 - More musicThe Intelligence Curse: https://intelligence-curse.ai/Luke’s Twitter: https://x.com/luke_drago_Luke’s Substack: https://lukedrago.substack.com/Luke’s top 10 albums:- A Fever You Can't Sweat Out by Panic! at the Disco (2005)- Channel Orange by Frank Ocean (2012)- Random Access Memories by Daft Punk (2013)- Yeezus by Kanye West (2013)- DAMN. by Kendrick Lamar (2017)- DAYTONA by Pusha T (2018)- IGOR by Tyler, the Creator (2019)- I Didn't Mean to Haunt You by Quadeca (2022)- College Park by Logic (2023)- Atavista by Childish Gambino (2024)More EpisodesYouTube: https://tinyurl.com/57jr42wkSpotify: https://tinyurl.com/mrxkkhb4Apple Podcasts: https://tinyurl.com/yck8pnmfMy Twitter: https://x.com/theojaffeeMy Substack: https://www.theojaffee.com

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