Welcome to the Unpodcast. If you’re listening from Bangkok, it’s been a period of intensely bad air quality. So it’s fitting that for Episode 3, we’re talking to Ingo, who is trying to fix this kind of thing. Ingo has spent his entire career working in climate and has attended almost every COP climate conference. He’s a co-founder of South Pole, one of the leading global players in sustainability, climate, and carbon. Every conversation I have with Ingo about climate and carbon markets feels like a master class. I feel always like I learned something that I couldn’t have learned anywhere else from someone with deep practical experience on the topic. In this conversation, we’ll get into the current state of carbon markets, especially in Thailand, why he believes that COP has failed and and what excites him most about COP today, and his thoughts on the importance of community and connection for climate action, and much, much, more. 

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