Chris Temple: Fed Meeting. Stagflation and Rates

20/06/2025 44 min

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Michael Fox and Chris Temple discussed the Federal Reserve meeting, noting that it was a non-event with no rate changes expected. Chris highlighted the Fed's prediction of moving from "stagflation light" to "stagflation moderate" and their unchanged forecast of 2 x 25 basis points rate cuts by 2025. They also touched on President Trump's criticism of Jerome Powell, with Chris suggesting that Trump's inaction on reducing the deficit and debt may be a reason for the Fed's reluctance to lower interest rates.Powell's Bond Market ChallengesChris and Michael discussed the current state of the bond market and the challenges facing Federal Reserve Chairman Powell. They noted that Powell, who was previously criticized for his role in inflation, is now seen as a key figure in controlling inflation and Treasury bond market stability. Michael expressed sympathy for Powell's difficult position, given the pressure to address inflationary threats from government spending, tariffs, and geopolitical tensions. They also touched on the potential impact of these factors on interest rates and borrowing costs.Federal Reserve's Inflation Policy ShiftChris discussed the impact of oil price increases on headline CPI, predicting a bump up in inflation due to higher energy costs and potential hurricane damage. He noted that the Federal Reserve's current monetary policy, which focuses on inflation targeting rather than monetary formulas, has contributed to the inflation problem. Michael suggested that the Fed might abandon its 2% inflation target and treat it as a range to maintain lower interest rates. Chris agreed that the Fed's recent statements could indicate a shift towards more tolerance for higher inflation, though he did not confirm this directly.Federal Reserve's Inflation StrategyChris and Michael discussed the Federal Reserve's approach to inflation and interest rates. Chris explained that the Fed has already effectively changed its inflation target, though not officially, and will likely implement yield curve control to manage long-term rates. They explored how yield curve control worked in Japan and the potential consequences of such a policy, including the risk of moral hazard and financial repression. Chris predicted that the Fed would soon attempt yield curve control to address market pressures and President Trump's concerns about high borrowing costs.Interest Rates and Treasury ChallengesChris discussed the impact of rising interest rates on bond portfolios and the challenges faced by the US Treasury and Federal Reserve in managing financial markets. He compared the US situation to Japan's experience with yield curve control, noting differences due to the US's more diverse economy and foreign ownership of Treasury securities. Chris also criticized President Trump's budget plans, highlighting the potential for increased deficits and questioning the accuracy of some economic projections.U.S. Treasury Market ChallengesChris and Michael discussed the challenges facing the U.S. Treasury market, highlighting concerns about rising interest rates, inflation, and the government's ability to manage debt. Chris emphasized that the market's recent reaction to geopolitical tensions, with Treasury yields rising despite expectations for a safe-haven rally, underscores the market's lack of confidence in the current administration's debt management strategy. They agreed that while corporate debt and certain stocks might offer better returns than Treasuries in the current environment, the long-term outlook for U.S. government bonds remains bleak, potentially leading to a scenario reminiscent of the 1970s.National Investorhttps://www.nationalinvestor.com/

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