How do we reclaim our humanity in a church culture where we are addicted to image? In this episode, we talk about why the most spiritual thing a leader can do is to be fully human and how to integrate psychology and spirituality for healthier leaders and healthier churches. If you want to get in touch with Laura Crate, send her an email at [email protected] or find her on IG @lauracrate If you want to chat or have any suggestions for the show, Let’s Talk! You can find us at: Want to chat or have any suggestions for the show? Let’s Talk! You can find us at:Instagram: @markkbenton2 @jubynotjudy @lauracrate Facebook: Mark K. Benton IIYouTubeAnd if you’re enjoying this podcast, please leave us a review on Apple Podcast, Spotify or on the Website. We’d be so grateful and appreciative of you! 

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