Mike Lapworth was the inspiration for my 65 swims at the age of 65 years. He had swum 50 swims at the age of 50 years. Hywel Davies I have swum with across the years, having met while swimming the length of the non-tidal River Thames (in stretches, not all in one go). We original met, Mikeand I, at the Thames at Port Meadow, Oxford, at a pre-pandemic Dodo (pre-Christmas) swim, where Hywel also swam. Mike told me of his 50 at 50, and Hywel persuaded me that 65 swims at 65 was a good idea. Mike has continued his swims, exploring new places, and we recorded this podcast in the small gem of café Nimia, in Eton, after another new swim for Mike, in the Thames there.

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