Rising artist Spencer Sutherland stops by for an episode packed with tequila tastings, Elvis deep-dives, and the brutal (and inspiring) realities of building a career in 2024.Richard and Spencer talk going viral by accident, touring the world without a giant hit, chasing authenticity over “goal-post pop,” and how bell-bottoms, TikTok, and pure determination reshaped his career.It’s a hilarious, honest conversation about dreams, delusion, vision, and what it really takes to survive the music business today.A must-listen for artists, fans, and anyone manifesting their future.

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