This episode explores D&C 137–138 through the lens of judgment, desire, and the remarkable consistency of God’s love. Gunnar and Rebecca dive deep into Joseph Smith’s vision of the celestial kingdom and Joseph F. Smith’s expansive revelation of the spirit world. They discuss why God judges both works and desires, and what that means for discipleship today. Powerful scriptural connections—Moroni 7, Alma 34, Romans 8—illuminate how intent shapes eternity. They also confront difficult questions about infant mortality, grief, and hope as they wrestle honestly with suffering, hope, and the Lord’s promise that “all things work together for good.” A rich blend of doctrine, narrative, and spiritual insight. Listeners walk away with a clearer view of God’s mercy and a deeper appreciation for what “line upon line” truly means.

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