In this episode, Jeff sits down with Dave Gibbons—speaker, pastor, and author of The Shape of My Eyes. Dave shares his evolving perspective on success and reflects on his fight against injustice as an Asian American. They delve into his experiences with racial and cultural divides in the U.S. and the journey to embrace his full identity. This conversation is powerful and thought-provoking—one you won't want to miss. www.socialimpactleader.com Follow: www.instagram.com/plywoodpeople www.plywoodpeople.com About Dave Gibbons: https://www.davegibbons.org/ This Podcast is brought to you by WABE, part of the NPR Network. wabe.org/podcasts Edited By: DJ OP Diggy Produced By: LaTasha Brown Music By: DJ OP DiggySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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