I sat down with Trav on The Mindset Technician Podcast for a raw conversation about business, success, and the parts of the coaching industry no one really talks about.We unpack why sustainable success comes from doing the boring, consistent things (not 12-hour hustle days), how finances and systems are the real foundations of growth, and the messy realities of navigating friendships, projections, and industry manipulation along the way.This episode is part strategy, part mindset, and a whole lot of truth bombs. If you’ve ever questioned whether business has to be so complicated (or wondered what success really looks like behind the Instagram highlights) this chat is going to land.

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