Phil first trekked with the inaugural group of Kit Carson Men in 1968.  He returned and worked on staff in the 60s and 70s.  From 2014 on, he’s been heavily involved with the PSA and this summer, he completed his 14th PSA trek.  As a ranger on staff in 69, Phil appreciated and enjoyed the exposure to diversity, guiding crew from all over the country. The rest of his  tenure was spent in the backcountry, namely the two summers he was CD at Fish Camp - back when the hot water heater, shower, and flushing toilet was still functioning.  Phil shares many stories including  the two year concrete removal project and the epic New Years fish fry.In the second portion of his interview, Phil highlights the rewarding work of being involved with the Philmont Staff Association - where his Philmont family has grown exponentially.  He specifically discusses a behind the scenes take on Volunteer Vacation and PhilBreak. Both of which are an economical and worthwhile way to visit the ranch and give back.  Philmont Experience:1968 - Kit Carson Men (Rayado)1969 - Ranger1970 - Training Ranger1971 - Camp Director - Fish Camp1972 - Camp Director - Fish Camp1973 - Camp Director - Baldy Town1974 - Camp Director - Cimarroncito2014-2016 - PSA Central Region Director2017-2019 - PSA National Director2020-2022 - PSA National Director2023-2026 - PSA National Director2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 - PSA Volunteer Vacation2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 - PSA PhilBreak2005-2022 - 14 PSA Treks and 2 PSA Autumn AdventuresNotable Mentions:Mike BarrettBill ShriverJoe DavisClarence DunnDave CaffeyAnne Marie KauffmanGreg McEwenBrad PlumbJohn CalcaterraNick PizorRichard PersicoDollie O'NeillKevin DowlingRandy SaundersLee HuckstepJohn CelleyMike CrockettBen HarperAlex RoseLee HughesShayla RidgwayEd PeaseMark StinnettStephen and Cynthia TrumperSupport the show

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