175. Is EMDR a Revolutionary Psychotherapy or Pseudoscientific Sham?

06/03/2025 1h 37min
175. Is EMDR a Revolutionary Psychotherapy or Pseudoscientific Sham?

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Is EMDR therapy legitimate science or pseudoscientific sham? In this provocative debate, Dr. Roger McFillin challenges Taraleigh Stemler, a certified EMDR practitioner and licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT), on whether the popular trauma treatment's signature eye movements and bilateral stimulation offer any real benefit, or if exposure therapy—simply facing painful memories—is doing all the heavy lifting. As both clinicians clash over research validity, the "medicalization" of normal emotions, and whether we've created a therapy-dependent culture, this raw conversation exposes the tribal warfare happening within mental health treatment that directly impacts which therapies patients receive.Chapters00:00 The Wild West of Psychotherapy06:01 The EMDR Process Explained12:03 Challenging the Efficacy of EMDR18:10 Post-Traumatic Growth: A Different Perspective23:58 Critique of EMDR's Application30:01 Comparing EMDR to Other Treatments38:56 Therapeutic Approaches: EMDR vs. Traditional Methods46:58 Bilateral Stimulation: A Controversial Tool55:06 Client Experiences and Observations01:01:54 The Scope of EMDR: A One-Size-Fits-All Solution?01:07:04 The Need for Research and Evidence in Therapy01:15:21 Research and Effectiveness of EMDR01:23:03 The Importance of Therapeutic Relationships01:29:55 The Power of Courage in Therapy
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