In this episode Dov and Dan discuss the pitfalls of magical thinking when living with ME and chronic illness. This is a longer episode and covers some heavy themes, so please listen at your own pace.
The clip we played by Carrie Poppy on retrospective bias and trauma hunting is part of a talk she gave to the Skeptics in the Pub channel on Mental Health Pseudoscience on Social Media and can be found here: https://youtu.be/urq3GT2coDw

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