S5 E13 Accompaniment in Grief with Dr. Abby Jorgensen

05/12/2025 59 min Temporada 5 Episodio 13

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*TRIGGER WARNINGThis episode discusses sensitive topics including loss through miscarriage, stillbirth, and infant loss. Certain portions of the episode might prove too graphic for some listeners.ShownotesIn this week’s episode, Jennifer has a conversation with bereavement doula and sociologist, Dr. Abby Jorgensen to discuss the challenges faced by both lay people and the Church when it comes to discussing this difficult topic. She also provides clarity on an end of life doula vs. grief doula (loss of child) and what it is like to accompany someone in the grief work she does through her ministry, Haven Bereavement Doulas. Our GuestDr. Abby Jorgensen is a Catholic sociologist, doula, and assistant professor at Saint Louis University, where she specializes in the intersections of pregnancy, grief, and faith. She is the author of A Catholic Guide to Miscarriage, Stillbirth, and Infant Loss (Ave Maria Press, 2024), a compassionate and practical resource rooted in faith and informed by both research and lived experience. In addition to her academic work, she is a certified birth and bereavement doula and the founder of Haven Bereavement Doulas. Find more about the work of Dr. Abby Jorgensen at: https://catholicbereavementdoula.com, or on social media at Abby the Sociologist Doula.ScripturePsalm 34:18John 19:34LinksHaven Bereavement DoulasSt. Gianna Beretta Molla St. Raymond NonnatusDouble effect - St. Thomas’ theologyPrayer for the souls of Mandy, Mary Ellen, Sister Mary Sharon, Dick, and JackJournaling QuestionsWhat stood out to you from this episode or resonated strongly with you? Take some time to reflect on the scripture verse Abby mentioned, Psalm 34:18, “The Lord is close to the brokenhearted.” How does it make you feel, thinking about the idea that the Lord is close to us when we are brokenhearted? Does it bring you comfort? Was there anything you found yourself relating to in terms of the responses you’ve received from others, including clergy, as it relates to your loss?Have you ever sought out someone to help you on your grief journey? Did you have trouble finding someone?What is something that surprised you to learn about the work of a grief doula?Abby spoke about the misconceptions she had about St. Gianna Beretta Molla and how, after gaining a better understanding of her journey to sainthood, St, Gianna has become a friend to her. Are there any saints who you have found who bring you comfort and you ask to intercede on your behalf?What is your mourning glory?We hope you enjoy this episode of the Mourning Glory Podcast and share it with others who are on a journey through grief. You can find links to all of our episodes including a link to our brand new private online community on our website at www.mourningglorypodcast.com. 

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