We just couldn't let The Just Podcast end without addressing some of the heavier topics consuming our nation and world right now. We spent some time in REAL talk, RAW emotions, and what steps we can take forward towards progress. Episode Summary:0:00 - Intro0:48 - Episode start1:38 - Jes frames up the episode3:42 - Rob asks why are we here?4.26 - Talking honestly, openly, and vulnerably7:00 - Rob is struggling but wants to lean in8:12 - Jes remembers talking to her son about Trayvon Martin10:05 - Mourning vs. shock or anger13:11 - Naming the difference between reactions from Black folks and white folks13:32 - The one place that white people never go -  "that could be me"14:11 - Ahmaud Arbery14:57 - Jes explains the aspect of trauma17:00 - Jes is reassessing her role in the resistance17:18 - Rob says everyone should ask “what is my role?”17:54 - Jes explains more about her assessment19:38 - Jes will build wealth for herself and her community20:02 - Wealth is power20:21 - When Black communities move towards power, white supremacy brings them down21:47 - White folks can't stand the power structures to shift22:17 - If Black folks had power, people would think twice about killing them23:38 - The system of race was an economic play24:27 - Why was race created in the first place?25:56 - Rob talks about learning about NC Mutual26:51 - You can’t stop at the diagnosis28:11 - If Blackness is a social construct, then so is whiteness28:59 - When is the white community going to examine their own identity or move beyond it?29:44 - Rob admits he would rather examine Blackness than look at his own whiteness31:25 - White people need to become students of how whiteness works33:22 - Will Rob do the work to study his own legacy and how he got here?34:45 - White people don't feel shared responsibility for the harm they cause35:16 - White people bring an individual lens - they don't see systemic issues36:11 - We're at a different place than when we started this podcast37:02 - We have to take a personal and spiritual accounting37:37 - Naming white supremacy39:20 - Rob describes being blind to the injustices of privilege40:07 - Rob commits to learning how his social mobility story interacts with the larger picture40:49 - You gotta do the work41:03 - There are more resources available now than 3 weeks ago41:52 - We’re going to keep this conversation going43:00 - Episode endThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity...

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