In "A Diary of a CEO" podcast, Steven Bartlett discusses how his upbringing shaped his approach to his relationships, dating styles and what he refers to toxic masculinity. As parents to teen and adult males, Josh and Jo discuss how they approached raising their own sons, the difficulties along the way as they fight the social norms and the culture they grew up in. They work hard and challenge themselves to be, see and do better. To them, nothing is more important, heartwarming and heartbreaking than this process.

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