Spill the tea - we want to hear from you!A former Navy intelligence professional turned engineer and lawyer, Cordell Robinson joins us to map a sane path through AI-era cybersecurity. His core message is blunt and hopeful at once: people and process still win. He explains how Brownstone Consulting trains a “cybersecurity army,” turning policies into habits and inventories into living maps of what actually runs inside a business. From there, we tackle the messy reality of AI agents, meeting note takers, and shadow integrations that bypass controls because they’re convenient. The fix is practical: isolate, scan, verify vendors, and only then connect.We go deeper on executive accountability. Many leaders stopped learning tech years ago, yet they are still the ones called to the carpet when things break. Cordell lays out a workable literacy plan: sit with your technical teams and learn the flow of data, the purpose of each tool, and the governance that limits risk. He doesn’t demand a CS degree. He asks for just enough fluency to ask sharp questions and to stop approving integrations on trust alone. That shift, he argues, is the difference between fragile productivity hacks and secure innovation.The stakes are rising. Cordell warns that human haste, not AI itself, drives the biggest threats, forecasting potential hits to critical infrastructure by 2030 if we fail to educate widely. We explore ethics and bias in code, sector-specific governance, and why constitutional-level updates should enshrine privacy, anti-bias requirements, and transparent AI controls. On a brighter note, Cordell shares his Shaping Futures Foundation, where children in Tanzania learn STEM and life skills to compete globally. It’s the long game: build habits, build literacy, and build leaders who can handle the tools they deploy.If you enjoy thoughtful, practical takes on AI security, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review. Tell us: what AI tool are you still unsure about adopting?Support the show

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