In this episode of the Flourishing Flame podcast, host Leah Brown interviews Dr. Benjamin Keyes, a seasoned expert in trauma and counseling. They discuss the various roles of counselors, the importance of seeking help, and the challenges faced during therapy. Dr. Keyes introduces his HEART model, which integrates spirituality with psychological practices, emphasizing the significance of forgiveness and personal growth in healing from trauma. The conversation also covers how to find the right counselor and the dynamics of the therapeutic relationship, including when to persist or seek a new therapist.   Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Counseling and Trauma Expertise 02:05 Understanding the Role of Counselors 06:19 When to Seek Counseling 10:11 The Journey of Therapy: Expectations and Challenges 13:41 The HEART Model: Integrating Spirituality and Psychology 26:41 Forgiveness and Healing in Trauma 32:33 Finding the Right Counselor 37:06 Navigating Therapy: When to Persist or Change Counselors   Keywords: counseling, trauma, therapy, mental health, HEART model, forgiveness, spiritual healing, finding a counselor, personal growth, PTSD

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