Tim Smits #ethicaltech #apps #innovation #DBPconvo @timsmits Click here to reply to @DBPardes "And I'm fascinated by the fact that this is both an app, but it's also a little toggle, a little key that you can hold and you have to have in order to open up apps that you say keep me away from that app. So this is really about our physical relationship to the apps that are sucking us in and sucking life out of our souls. Tim, thank you for being here. I'm really excited to have a really robust conversation with you and the community."

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