Joe's banger about his hometown, Watertown, NY, demonstrates how a certain kind of energy manages to both hide and reveal deeper feelings. This episode is all about that kind of contrast;  how music theory knowledge can both sharpen and stifle the songwriting process, how collaboration can inspire and frustrate at the same time, how our home towns can be both grounding and isolating. It's a conversation about dualities and finding the right rhythm between them. Send a text—we’d love to hear from you!Do you have a song we should talk about? If you've got any thoughts, ideas, comments, or just want to say hi, holler at [email protected]. I'd love to hear from you!

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