In this episode of Chalk and Code, host Theron Davis speaks with Matthew Baker, CEO of Tovuti LMS, about the past, present, and future of learning management systems. With over two decades in edtech, including leadership roles at Blackboard, Instructure, and CLASS Technologies. Matthew brings a rare perspective on how LMS platforms have evolved from CD-ROM installs to SaaS solutions that now serve learners worldwide.Matthew shares why he joined Tovuti LMS, how the company’s people-first culture sets it apart, and why LMS vendors must rethink their approach to AI if they want to stay relevant. From balancing configurability with usability to breaking into new markets like FedRAMP, he unpacks both the challenges and opportunities ahead for corporate learning.If you’re curious about where LMS innovation is headed, what “AI-first” really means, and how culture drives software success, this conversation is a must-listen.Key Moments03:46 "Blackboard's Digital Transformation Journey"09:07 Real-Time Student Engagement Challenges11:51 People Drive Software Success13:39 Leveraging People for Success16:55 "People-First Business Culture"20:38 Embracing Change Through Empathy26:26 Education vs. Corporate LMS Needs30:38 Startup Responsiveness and Client Focus34:50 "AI Integration Beyond Surface Level"37:40 Course Building with AI Insights40:36 Driving Innovation in Education Markets46:09 "Understanding EdTech Demand Immersion"48:03 Balancing Business and Learner NeedsWhy You’ll Love This EpisodeThis episode shines a light on what it really takes to innovate in the LMS space. You’ll hear how Matthew Baker’s career has mirrored the evolution of learning platforms—and why he believes the next wave of disruption depends on culture, configurability, and AI-first thinking.Matthew also shares:Why software success is 60% people, 30% product, 10% market timingHow Tovuti LMS balances configurability with client focusWhy smaller companies can sometimes outmaneuver the giantsWhere AI can (and can’t) create real value in learningConnect with Matthew BakerTovuti LMS: https://www.tovutilms.com/ Connect with UsCompany’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/flexion-incCompany Website: https://flexion.us/If this conversation sparked a new idea or challenged your assumptions, share this episode with a colleague and subscribe for more thoughtful discussions at the intersection of learning, leadership, and educational technology.Join us next time on Chalk and Code, where the science of learning meets modern technology.

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