Send us a textIn this bold and soul-baring episode, Elaine is joined by powerhouse coach and speaker Jacquie Grillon for a truth-packed deep dive into people pleasing, perfectionism, and what it really takes to unlearn the conditioning that keeps women stuck, silent, and drained.From Catholic school trauma to addiction, codependency, and overgiving in work and relationships — Jacquie shares her personal story of growing up in dysfunction and how she began the lifelong process of reclaiming her voice.Key TakeawaysPeople pleasing is not kindness — it’s self-abandonment in disguise.We often give not from generosity, but from a deep need to be chosen, included, and liked.Recovery doesn’t end with putting down the drink, food, or men — there are deeper emotional patterns to heal.When you stop people pleasing, many relationships will fall away — and that grief is real.You’ll either work your trauma out with one person over 30 years, or with 20 different ones — the lesson will keep coming until you heal it.Boundaries may feel awkward at first — but laughter and grace can help you hold the line.Healing makes you more effective, not less — Jacquie shares a story of a client who reclaimed her life, her joy, and even lost 100 pounds by finally prioritizing herself.“If you’ve ever said yes when you meant no — this episode is for you.”In this truth-packed convo, I sit down with the fierce and fabulous Jacquie Grillon, who pulls no punches on people pleasing, growing up in chaos, perfectionism, and why boundaries are the new black.Jacquie Grillon: [email protected] 🎧 Available now on Captivate the Mic Tag your fellow recovering “good girls” — this one’s a must-listen. 💥💛Connect with your Host, Elaine Williams:Check out Captivate the Mic Podcast on Elaine's YouTube ChannelCheck out the Captivate the Crowd WebsiteFollow Elaine on Social- LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, TikTokWant to schedule a free chat with Elaine? Click here to book a zoom date!

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