Two American sisters. Their mother's plea from her deathbed to finish her memoir leads them shockingly to their Nazi-linked grandfather. A Gracie Award-winning podcast. In this unforgettable Call Me Friend episode, host Daryn Kagan talks with Suzanne and Stephanie Rico about their gripping podcast The Man Who Calculated Death, exploring family legacy, Nazi Germany, and the truth hidden in a dying mother’s memoir. If you’re into family secrets, WWII history, or award winning storytelling this one’s for you.In This Episode You Will LearnHow a dying mother’s memoir sparked a deep investigation into a Nazi-linked family historyThe process of turning personal trauma and family secrets into an award-winning podcastWhat it was like for two sisters to uncover their grandfather’s role in Hitler’s weapons programThe emotional and ethical weight of confronting Holocaust history within your own lineageHow science, journalism, and sisterhood came together to reveal uncomfortable truthsThe real story behind the V-1 vengeance weapon and its ties to Nazi concentration campsWhat the Rico sisters learned about legacy, generational trauma, and redemptionBehind the scenes of creating The Man Who Calculated Death as a sister-led podcast teamWhy resilience, collaboration, and truth-telling are core to both their podcast and their healing journeyDiscover how a journalist and a scientist used podcasting to unravel their grandfather’s role in Hitler’s weapons program and what they found at a concentration camp that changed everything.Powered by Ms Lous Cabin- https://www.airbnb.com/h/mslouscabinTimestamps :(00:00) A dying wish: Finish my memoir(01:00) Meet Suzanne Rico and her Emmy-worthy storytelling (02:36) How Facebook connected two recovering journalists(05:28) Daryn discovers the powerful podcast The Man Who Calculated Death(07:00) The legacy of their grandfather’s weapon design for Hitler(08:36) Stephanie—voice memos, war stories, and Nazi archives(11:06) From memoir to podcast: how it evolved(13:12) Did their mom know they’d uncover Nazi secrets?(15:00) The weight of truth: family guilt and generational trauma(17:12) The V-1 vengeance weapon and ties to concentration camps(19:06) Sisters reflect on truth, teamwork, and emotional healing(21:42) The aunts: storytelling, survival, and sisterhood(24:00) What the Rico sisters learned about resilience(27:00) Legacy, redemption, and one powerful apology to a Holocaust survivor(30:12) Behind the scenes: How working with a sister shapes the project(34:36) Advice for sister teams launching podcastsKey Takeaways:A dying mother’s memoir launched a multi-year investigation into a family’s Nazi-linked pastSuzanne and Stephanie Rico used journalism, science, and family archives to create an award-winning podcastTheir grandfather designed Hitler’s V-1 vengeance weapon and joined the Nazi party for career survivalThe sisters’ emotional journey included confronting Holocaust survivors and family mythsSisterhood, resilience, and truth-telling are at the heart of both their podcast and their livesGuest Bios:Suzanne Rico is a former TV journalist turned podcast creator. She’s the writer, narrator, and producer of The Man Who Calculated Death, a deeply personal and award-winning exploration of her family's past.Stephanie Rico is a sustainability strategist with a background in science. Fluent in German and equally devoted to the investigation, she joined her sister on this podcast journey, helping...

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