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Listen "Escaping the Rat Race to Pursue Intentional Living - Matt Yao (#6)"
Episode Synopsis
Matt Yao is a coach, writer, and apprentice for Steven Schlafman's Downshift decelerator program.
In this conversation, we talk about quitting your job, taking sabbaticals, intentional living, the benefits of apprenticeship, and shifting perspectives about money.
0:00 Introduction
0:27 Matt's Notion Dashboard to Quitting Your Job
2:15 Matt's Story from Early Life to Quitting His Job
5:15 The Pivot Away From the Rat Race
7:30 Advice for College Students
10:25 The Impact of Paul Millerd's Book, "The Pathless Path"
11:51 What Happened After Matt Quit His Job
14:20 Benefits from Unoptimizing Your Life
16:03 Are Sabbaticals Sustainable for the Long Term?
18:21 How Coaching Changed Matt's Life
21:18 Matt's Experience as an Apprentice
24:30 Apprenticeship in the Modern Age and Its Benefits
28:50 How to Find/Create Your Own Apprenticeship
31:09 Have a Proof of Work Online & Do the Work Upfront
32:15 Relationship with Money
37:10 Stepping Off of the Hedonic Treadmill
40:39 Focusing on What Actually Matters
41:14 Financial Privilege & Resources
44:17 Moving Around vs. Staying Put
46:50 Knowing Where to Live
48:47 Something You've Grown Up Believing that Turned Out to Be False?
51:20 Experience the Full Spectrum
52:47 Advice that is Underrated / Overrated?
55:11 Where to Find Matt
Follow Matt:
Website: https://mattyao.co/
Essays: https://blog.mattyao.co/
Twitter: https://x.com/matt__yao
Follow Me:
🌐 Website: https://www.jestonlu.com
🎙️ Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@pursuitoflightpod
🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jestonlu
💬 Twitter: https://twitter.com/jestonlu
📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jestonlu/
About The Pursuit of Light Podcast: Conversations empowering the young generation to live a life of alignment, purpose, & impact. Interviewing people from all walks of life who embody the pursuit of light — creatives, entrepreneurs, students, authors, thought leaders, and more.
In this conversation, we talk about quitting your job, taking sabbaticals, intentional living, the benefits of apprenticeship, and shifting perspectives about money.
0:00 Introduction
0:27 Matt's Notion Dashboard to Quitting Your Job
2:15 Matt's Story from Early Life to Quitting His Job
5:15 The Pivot Away From the Rat Race
7:30 Advice for College Students
10:25 The Impact of Paul Millerd's Book, "The Pathless Path"
11:51 What Happened After Matt Quit His Job
14:20 Benefits from Unoptimizing Your Life
16:03 Are Sabbaticals Sustainable for the Long Term?
18:21 How Coaching Changed Matt's Life
21:18 Matt's Experience as an Apprentice
24:30 Apprenticeship in the Modern Age and Its Benefits
28:50 How to Find/Create Your Own Apprenticeship
31:09 Have a Proof of Work Online & Do the Work Upfront
32:15 Relationship with Money
37:10 Stepping Off of the Hedonic Treadmill
40:39 Focusing on What Actually Matters
41:14 Financial Privilege & Resources
44:17 Moving Around vs. Staying Put
46:50 Knowing Where to Live
48:47 Something You've Grown Up Believing that Turned Out to Be False?
51:20 Experience the Full Spectrum
52:47 Advice that is Underrated / Overrated?
55:11 Where to Find Matt
Follow Matt:
Website: https://mattyao.co/
Essays: https://blog.mattyao.co/
Twitter: https://x.com/matt__yao
Follow Me:
🌐 Website: https://www.jestonlu.com
🎙️ Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@pursuitoflightpod
🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jestonlu
💬 Twitter: https://twitter.com/jestonlu
📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jestonlu/
About The Pursuit of Light Podcast: Conversations empowering the young generation to live a life of alignment, purpose, & impact. Interviewing people from all walks of life who embody the pursuit of light — creatives, entrepreneurs, students, authors, thought leaders, and more.
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